Roy Keane Interview with Tommy Gorman
Keane / Gorman Interview 1
This Interview First Appeared on RTE
Television on 27 May 2002
Venue : Moat House Hotel, Manchester
Gorman - RTE : Do you accept that the language used wasn't
very nice. Alex Ferguson has used expletives in his time and I know Mick
McCarthy has done, but would accept that it's not the kind of language
one expects from a leader of men.
Keane: This was a private team meeting. I didn't call the
press conference 15 minutes after the team meeting. I didn't go on and
say what apparently people were saying.
Gorman - RTE : But what about the language itself. Do you
accept that it wasn't very complimentary to Mick McCarthy and he was justified
in feeling hurt by it?
Justified in questioning my loyalty to my country? With the lads in front
of us saying that in the Iran match I faked an injury? He knew I wasn't
right. He spoke to Alex Ferguson on that Sunday morning, I hadn't played
for three and a half weeks. I reported, played on the Saturday, we won 2-0
and the manager said that's a positive result. I hadn't played for three
and a half weeks and it wouldn't be good for my knee (to play again in Iran).
That was the medical advice I had. Mick Byrne the physio came to my room
that Saturday night and I told him it was a little bit sore. Then Sunday
morning Alex Ferguson rang me and Mick (McCarthy) was there and I said look
the manager (Ferguson) wants me to go back because he classes 2-0 as a good
result and Mick said: 'Roy, thanks for coming over, we knew you weren't
quite right.' He said that to me. And I said to him at the meeting 'You're
a liar' I was still trying to stay calm at this stage but I'm not going
to accept that. Not in front of my team-mates and the staff. I will not
Gorman - RTE : Will you accept that if there was wrong on
his side, then the language you used to him, you were wrong, you went
in too hard.
Keane: If I felt for one second I was a little bit out of order
then I would apologise and I would go back. I'd love to play in the World
Cup. But I am 100% right. And that's not being arrogant or cocky. The
last few days, it's been hard, of course it has been. Everyone wants to
play in the World Cup but the things that went on in that room, people
knew they weren't happy with the conditions; senior players agreed with
me. They could have had their say and they just sat there. And I walked
out of that room and I walked out on my international career and not one
person backed me up, not one.
Gorman - RTE : Does that not make you suspect that maybe,
in the language you used, you were wrong. That's not the kind of language
for children to be hearing about. You're a role model.
Keane: It was a private meeting amongst men. These things aren't
supposed to go out. That's why I went to Mick's room on the Sunday night
and I discussed with it with him. Mick was the one who called it in front
of everyone else and said I'd turned my back on the players, that I faked
a injury not to go off to Iran when he knew damn well I wasn't right.
And he's supposed to be a man-manager. So of course there was going to
be language. I wasn't going to say 'excuse me Mick, I think you're a bit
out of order'. Of course you're going to use language. I said things to
Mick and I'm 100% behind what I said.
Gorman - RTE : Were you sorry about the way you said it?
It's not a sign of weakness to say you're sorry.
Keane: I agree with you. No matter what you do in life you
make decisions. Whether it's moving house or moving jobs, getting your
haircut, buying a pair of shoes. You might have some doubts, did I do
the right thing? But the last few days, there's not one doubt in my mind
where I stand, not one doubt and that's good enough for me.
Gorman - RTE : How about Mick McCarthy. In Ireland there's a view
that he's an honest man, that he's a decent man, that as a footballer
he was always honest and he always did his best. Do you go along with
Keane: Mick had a decent career and he's done very well. Personally
I wouldn't know Mick that well. All I know is the dealings I've had with
him and to be fair to Mick he's been very understanding with friendly
matches and coming in a couple of days late for certain matches. There's
been one or two games where he's let me go home for one or two days when
we've had back-to-back matches and he's been very understanding. But all
that came to an end the other night.
Gorman - RTE : But do you respect him. Do you recognise
that during the course of his career that when he put his foot in that
he was doing his best for Ireland?
Keane: Of course. I grew up watching him playing for Ireland
and he did very well playing for Ireland, like a lot of other players.
Gorman - RTE : And do you think he was doing his best as
Keane: No. I think he was at fault but that's my opinion and
football's all about opinions. That's what makes it a great game; why
you get people in the pubs, everywhere you go, it's all about opinions
and I accept that. But I'm entitled to my opinion.
Gorman - RTE : But I'm talking about his integrity and his
sincerity in trying to do his best because the view that most Irish people
have is that he does his best.
Keane: He probably does do his best.
Gorman - RTE : Sometimes in life it can be very ironic because
it's said that one of the first rows you had with him was when you were
a younger man and when he bawled you out of it because you went out late.
And do you not see the irony of you crossing swords with McCarthy because
some of the younger players were going out at night and some of them might
be taking things too lax?
Keane: Players need to go out and enjoy themselves. I had them
coming in, six, seven in the morning. It was a great laugh and some of
them told me all about it. Good luck to them, I haven't got a problem
with that. People say I'm a loner and I lock myself away in my room. I
think I'm very approachable. A lot of the Irish lads approach me and talk
to me and I'm always willing to give advice. Like I've said, I've had
my nights out, but I was getting ready for a World Cup. If that's what
they want to do good luck to them. I haven't got a problem with them one
bit. There was a barbecue arranged for Monday night with the press. That's
not my scene and said this to Mick. There's people in the press I've had
my disagreements with over the years and I felt I didn't really want to
go, but I went. Mick said to us that he wanted the press on our side but
I couldn't understand it. But I went and then I went to bed about nine,
10pm and the lads went out and they had a great night. Good luck to them.
© RTE Television 2002
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