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Paul Kimmage Interview With Roy Keane in SaipanThis Interview First Appeared in the Sunday Independent on Sunday 26 May 2002
The Paul Kimmage Interview With Roy Keane
Paul Kimmage: Music? Roy Keane: A bit of Bob Dylan . . . a bit of Tupac who is a rapper . . . Phil Collins . . . some Irish pub songs . . . some Irish rebel songs which I try and save before kick off. Paul Kimmage: Really? Irish rebel songs? Roy Keane: Yeah. Paul Kimmage: And what would be your favourite? In a piece about the Holland game last year it was suggested that Simon and Garfunkel's 'I am a Rock' might be your private anthem. (You hand him a copy of the words). 'I've built walls Roy Keane: (He reads it and laughs) Maybe I am an island. Paul Kimmage: Does it come close? Roy Keane: Yeah. Paul Kimmage: Two photographs from the Holland game stand out: the photo of the joy on your face when Jason McAteer scored and the photo of you shaking hands with Mick McCarthy as you walk off the pitch. The contrast has always struck me as very odd? Roy Keane: Well, obviously . . . it's a job done. I'm not really into hugging and kissing and the hoo haa about it. Obviously I'm delighted, don't get me wrong but just get off the pitch and get into the dressing room. I think sometimes there is too much carry on on the pitch regarding results. We should expect these results. For other people it might have been a shock but I always felt we would get a result. And my emotions are different I suppose. I react differently. Paul Kimmage: A lot of people interpreted the photo with Mick as proof that you don't get on? Roy Keane: Emm. Paul Kimmage: They say the camera never lies? Roy Keane: Because you don't get on with a person doesn't mean you dislike them. Of all the people I've been around in football, there are none I would regard as a personal friend. Maybe the closest would be Alex Ferguson. So with Mick . . . I don't expect to be pals with Mick. I don't want to be pals with Mick. I played with Mick, I wasn't pals when I played with him and I certainly don't want to be pals when I'm playing for him. I mentioned Alex Ferguson because he's someone I feel close to but we're not pally-pally. I wouldn't send him a Christmas card. Paul Kimmage: Does that mean you dislike Mick? Roy Keane: No, I don't dislike him. Paul Kimmage: What about your team-mates? Who are you closest to here? Roy Keane: None of them, but that's been the case for many a year which, I suppose . . . it's not a problem over two or three days but over a length of time it does (bother me). Paul Kimmage: That same photograph was the first time I noticed your tattoos? Roy Keane: Yeah, very painful. Paul Kimmage: What are they? Roy Keane: I've got my kids on my right arm: Shannon, Caragh, Aidan and Leah. And on the left (arm) it's just a standard cross. The wife did ask me why didn't I get hers (name put on) and I said 'they'll always be my kids but you won't necessarily always be my wife,' which she wasn't too pleased about. (laughs) Paul Kimmage: The other interpretation of that photo would be 'I want to get out of here as quick as possible'. Roy Keane: Yeah. Paul Kimmage: And that's difficult when you come to a place like this and have a blow-out with your team-mates like yesterday, isn't it? Because I would suspect that happens regularly enough at Manchester United, that you lose the head with your team-mates? But the difference this time was you couldn't get into your car and drive home? Roy Keane: Yeah. If I could have got a flight yesterday I wouldn't be here now. Paul Kimmage: Let me take you back to the Iran game and the problem with your knee. Roy Keane: Well again I was having problems. I never played for three weeks before the first play-off match. I spoke to the manager, our own manager at Man United, and the deal was, and there was a deal done before the match, that if we got a positive result and 2-0 to me is positive I wouldn't jeopardise it by doing any more damage. First of all with the flight and obviously by playing two matches in four or five days which I hadn't done for maybe three and a half weeks. So after the match I felt my knee again and on Sunday morning the manager (Ferguson) rang and said 'we class 2-0 as a positive result.' And that was it, I decided to go home. In my eyes the game was over. I couldn't see us losing 3-0. And of course (that leaves) you open to criticism again. Paul Kimmage: What criticism? Roy Keane: That I was being put under pressure (by Manchester United) but I couldn't play the second match. And I felt the job is done. And, as you get older, you have got to be more selfish regarding your body because I've played in hundreds of games when I probably shouldn't have played, especially when there was something at stake. But I weighed up everything: we're 2-0 up going to play a team where I think we will get a result. If it was 1-0 or 0-0 it would have been different but I couldn't see them scoring three and us scoring none. Paul Kimmage: Okay but you're the biggest player on the team and . . . Roy Keane: Well I don't see it that way. And I'm not being humble. People are entitled to their opinion but I think it's so exaggerated, it's untrue. Paul Kimmage: So who is bigger? Roy Keane: We're all the same. No one is better or worse. Paul Kimmage: The point I am trying to make is that Ireland without Keane is a much lesser team and that the Iranians were handed a psychological advantage the moment you didn't check in for the flight? Roy Keane: What was the score again? Paul Kimmage: 1-0. Roy Keane: And we qualified? Paul Kimmage: We qualified . . . okay, point taken. Another criticism was that you left the hotel in Dublin that morning without wishing your team-mates luck or telling them you weren't travelling? Roy Keane: I can't remember what happened. It was a Sunday morning and I booked the flight and I think they might have gone training or gone out for a loosener. Obviously I spoke to Mick and Mick Byrne and, in between, obviously I spoke to the manager who rang me on my mobile. But I felt the job was done. There was no way I could see us losing the game. Paul Kimmage: Your relationship with Mick and with your team-mates would suggest that you play for Ireland on your terms? Is that fair? Roy Keane: No, probably not. Paul Kimmage: It's not fair? Roy Keane: No. I am always one or two days late (joining up) but I feel I travel more than most of the players in the squad because of my European commitments with the club. And I don't like being away for long periods of time. I've got four young children. I know the other players have kids but I don't worry about them, I look after me. And there's no doubt it must piss them off. But when I'm here I work as hard as any of them. If there is a player who prepares better than me I'd like to meet him. And that's what it's all about. I love the 90 minutes playing for my country. I love it as much as the next man. And people go on that I keep blasting this and blasting that but all I want is what's best for me and for my team-mates. And if that's a crime, I'm guilty. Paul Kimmage: Did you watch the second leg in Iran on TV? Roy Keane: Yeah. At home. I was flicking. Paul Kimmage: You were flicking? Roy Keane: Yeah. Paul Kimmage: Why? Roy Keane: Because it wasn't a great game. It was pretty dire. Paul Kimmage: And when we qualified? Roy Keane: It was no big deal. I felt we qualified on the Saturday before. Paul Kimmage: So there was no sense of elation? Roy Keane: No. I remember in '94 going bloody berserk and I remember all the scenes but this was completely different. I think as you get older you accept it. Paul Kimmage: Did you enjoy it more then? Roy Keane: In '94? Yeah, without a doubt. Paul Kimmage: Why? Roy Keane: I wish I had an answer. Maybe it's because I was younger. As you get older . . . I've got more balance in my life. In '94 it was more of a rollercoaster, I'd be up (if we won) and then down the following week if we were beaten. But now I'm trying to take the good and the bad along the same level. And the fact that I wasn't there (in Iran) obviously makes it different. I was at home and obviously pleased but, again, I was convinced we had qualified on the Saturday. © Independent.ie 2002 Continued at Roy
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